The Works of George Fox, Volume 3 of 8
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The Many Lies of Christendom Exposed and Refuted
HERE are the principles of priests, and professors, and pastors in the apostasy, who have gotten up since the days of the apostles, that in this day have risen against the lamb, and against the saints. For since the days of the apostles, the beast has had power, the false prophet, and mother of harlots, which inwardly ravened from the spirit of God, which have had the sheep's clothing, and by that means have deceived the nations, and got in the kings of the earth, and clothed them with the outside, by which the kings of the earth, and the beast, and false prophet, dragon, devil, mother of harlots, and the great whore have joined together in one against the saints, overcome them, and cast them into prison, and drunk the blood of the saints, and prophets, and martyrs. But now shall the saints and the lamb have the victory, who kills and slays with the sword, which are the words of his mouth. Agreeably to the apostle's doctrine, 'who wrestle not with flesh and blood.'
Now the beast, false prophet, and mother of harlots, devil, and antichrist, that have drunk the blood of the saints, that have the sheep's clothing, these are the killers with the sword, the slayers with the sword, the imprisoners and persecutors; which was not the work of the true apostles, true ministers, that kept the faith and patience of Jesus. The martyrs, the saints, and the prophets suffered. Now these were in the spirit that gave forth the scriptures, but the others got the scriptures: antichrists, false prophets, mother of harlots, the devil, the beast, and all his names, which killed and slew with the sword. These are inwardly ravening from the spirit of God, the spirit of the lamb, the spirit of the apostle, who killed and slew with the sword, which are the words of his mouth. So all these names, in the whole Christendom among all that are called christians, have gotten up among them since the days of the apostles, which are gone out of the life, and Faith, and spirit they were in, which they had unity in, which was the bond of peace. These have had the words, but ravened from the life, and so are all on heaps about the words, and giving one another names. So look in the whole of Christendom and see what abundance of names there are, which should be one family. All these names, horns, and crowns, and building up and throwing down, are all a mark among them that have had the words but were out of the life, which life now is risen, which the Apostles lived in, which they since the days of the apostles have been out of, in many names and heaps, in the apostasy. Now with the life is all this fathomed and comprehended, in which is the unity, which life brings people to know God, and unity with him, and with scriptures, and one with another; and all are one here, if there be ten thousand times ten thousand. And you who read over this book may read and see things which you never read nor saw printed. Did ever the lambs worry the wolves? And did not the wolves get the sheep's clothing, and raven after the sheep and lambs, that they might get among them! Pride, and wildness, and pleasure have swallowed up people, teachers, and ministers, that if any are sober and still, presently he is a Quaker! and thus modesty is eaten up.
In answer to many false doctrines and principles which Babylon's
merchants have traded with, being held forth by the professed ministers, and teachers, and professors in England, Ireland, and Scotland, taken under their own hands, and from their own mouths, sent forth by them from time to time, against the despised people of the Lord, called Quakers, who are of the seed of that woman who have been
long led into the wilderness.
An invasion upon the great city Babylon, with the spoiling of her golden cup, and delicate merchandise, whereby she hath deceived the world and nations; and herein is declared the spoiling of her prey, in this answer to the multitude of doctrines held forth by the many false sects, which have lost the key of knowledge, and been on foot since the apostles' days, called Anabaptists, Independents, Presbyters, Ranters, and many others; who out of their own mouths have manifested themselves not to be of a true descent from the true christian churches: but it is discovered that they have been all made drunk with the wine of fornication received from the whore which has sat upon the beast, after whom the world has wondered.
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This is a book of George Fox's answers to the many accusations and objections against the doctrines and beliefs of the early Quaker movement of the 17th Century. You begin to see the opposition and accusations as coming from men who deliberately turned a blind eye to the scriptures they spent years studying. Desperate to hold on to their positions of power and salary led them to speaking lies in hypocrisy, which seared their consciences beyond operation. They even deny the specific scriptures that support perfection, union with Christ and God, Christ in you, the kingdom of heaven within you, being taught directly by God, the light in every man that comes into the world, revelation from God, hearing the Spirit of God, and more. Regarding the ministers and priests in this book, the Word of God within my heart, spoke to say:
They are so puffed up in their own fleshly knowledge of the scriptures, that they cannot imagine anyone with more Spirit than themselves; and if they admitted the possibility, they would have acknowledge they are the unperfected disciples, who were blind guides, of whom Christ warned us and told us to leave them. They would be without any followers, without an income, without the prestige of their job. In the 17th Century many churches were emptied by the truth of the early Quaker movement, which panicked the priests into whipping up their followers and the government officials to violently persecuting the Quakers on a massive scale: 869 Quakers died in prison, (not including those attacked in their meetings by violent Protestant mobs and soldiers), tens of thousands were imprisoned for failure to swear or for not paying legislated tithes to the Protestant priests, and many, many more had their property seized. Three godly men and one woman were hung in Boston by the Puritan Congregationalists. In most every case, it was the priests and ministers who stoked the fires of hatred against the Quakers, just like the Jewish high priest insisted on the death of Jesus and Steven. As was Christ's condemnation of the Pharisees who had the scriptures:
Why can they not hear the word in their hearts? Why do they have no light to see the revelations of God? Because they teach errors, leading others into captivity and destruction, and are thus condemned to captivity themselves. Because they were never called, never taught, never sent by the Lord. Because they preach for money in their covetousness to be admired by men. Because they lord it over their congregations. Because they are like the Pharisees: uncleansed, unpurified, hypocritical leaders, who outwardly appear righteous, but who are hypocrites whose hearts are full of wickedness and iniquity (sin). Because they are enemies of the cross, and their god is their belly, (their lusts and affections), and their minds are on earthly things.
If you read this book, you will read hundreds of erroneous doctrinal statements made in opposition to the early Quakers. These allegations usually directly contradict scripture, exposing how hollow their religion really is, which includes the Baptists, Presbyterians, Episcopalians, Congregationalists, and more. You begin to hear the whore in her lies; you hear her howls of insecurity, completely disregarding the scriptures. That whore continues to reign today in the 41,000 sects of Christendom, but her remaining time is short.
As Paul was later persecuted because Christ lived in him and who spoke, so were the Quakers persecuted. The light of Christ is persecuted wherever it appears in fullness of the stature of Christ, in which is the unity - without which unity are heaps of sects.
In this book, many of the ministers and priests of Protestantism argue against and twist the meanings of the following scriptures:
They insist on disbelief of the above scriptures applying to every man. Why? Because then there is no difference between sinners in their sect and sinners outside their sect; they lose their imagined distinction; which imagined distinction exists because they deny the possibility of ever being freed from sin. If every man in the world has the light, and if every man in the world has been given the spirit, then what do the sects have to offer? Nothing! Because they are only a form of godliness without the power to change a man to become godly, pure, holy, clean, and perfect. And so you will read in this book, how the false prophets constantly fight the scriptures that testify to the light and the spirit being in every man. To deny the light, is to deny 100 + scriptures (click to see) that speak to a spiritual, supernatural light.
Because the false prophets have never seen the light of God, they insist that Bible references to the light refer to a natural light, but the Bible makes a clear distinction between the natural light of the sun and moon, and the light of God or Christ:
Note. In the following Principles and Answers by Fox, all references to see page number, refer to the page in the document where erroneous statements were made that Fox then answers.
O house of Jacob, come and let us walk in the light of the Lord. Isa 2:5
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An answer to many principles held forth by some of those called ministers, teachers, and professors in England; taken out of their several books, with their names to them. And also several other sayings and writings of the priests and professors of this nation, gathered together and answered.
Samuel Eaton, (who calls himself a teacher of the church of Christ, at Stockport in Cheshire), in his book called, ‘The Quakers Confused,’ sent to the Parliament,
Principle. Said in his epistle to the parliament, then sitting at Westminster, ‘That they are not to judge of saintship, according to the large charity of some who are truly good.’
Answer. So here is another doctrine different than Christ's was, who said, ‘The tree is known by its fruits;’ and ‘by their fruits you shall know them.’ And the fruits of the spirit are known from the fruits of the flesh.
Again, in the conclusion of his before said epistle he begs pardon of the parliament, for the thoughts of his heart that he has spread before them, and so puts them [Parliament] in the pope's place [by begging their pardon].
Likewise, in his epistle to the reader, because Richard Waller witnesses his teacher within, and bids others to mind the light within them; and that he was come off from all other teachers, ... he judges this to be delusion; contrary to John the apostle, who said, ‘You need no man to teach you, but as the same anointing teaches you, which is truth, and is no lie.’ 1 John 2:27. And again, in Heb 8:10-11, ‘You shall not teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, know the Lord, for they shall all know him from the least to the greatest: for the Lord will write his law in their hearts, and put his spirit within them,’ ...
Principle. He said, ‘he does not believe that there is any substantial, essential, or personal union between the eternal spirit and believers.’
Answer. Although the scripture said, the spirit dwells in the saints, 1 Cor 6:17-19, and, ‘He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit.’ 1 John 4:12-16. As though the saints had not union with God, which the scripture said they have.
Principle. He said, ‘It is palpably false, and blasphemy, to say, that the saints know all things, and have power to work miracles to the glory of God.’
Answer. Contrary to the minister of Christ, John, who said, ‘But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and know all things.’ 1 John 2:20. Also John 14:26,16:13.
And Christ said, ‘Greater works than these shall you do that believe in me.’
Principle. He said, ‘Though we believe that the spirit of Christ dwells in the saints, yet we assert the spirit of Christ to be distinct from the saints,’ ...
Answer. How are they led by the spirit? How are they led into all truth? And how are they sanctified by the spirit, and their unity in the spirit? By which spirit they have unity with God; by which spirit the saints worship him. And ‘He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit; he that has not the spirit of Christ is none of his.’ And so they [without the Spirit of Christ] are distinct from the Spirit; but they, who have the Spirit of Christ, are not distinct, and are in unity with it, and one with another.
Principle. He said, ‘Although there is the same spirit in all the saints that gave forth the scriptures, yet all saints have not the same inspiration of the spirit that the prophets and apostles had, so as that they should be able to give forth infallible truths, and directly discover the pure and clear will of God, as the prophets and apostles did.’
Answer. In this he has showed his ignorance of the spirit, and of the Holy Ghost. And himself is the false spirit gone out into the world. For the spirit of truth shall lead into all truth, and bring to memory Christ's words, and does inspire into them the things of God, and does reveal to every one according to his measure.
Principle. ‘The spirit does not communicate according to the capacity in the creature.’
Principle. He said, ‘They had not known the significance of the words of Christ, but by the evangelists.’
Answer. I say, neither he, nor any one knows the significance of Christ's words by the evangelists' words, but by the evangelists' spirit, and by the same inspiration which you say that you don’t look for.
Principle. He said, ‘The scriptures do give their own sense, and are a standing rule.’ And yet you said a little before, in page 4, ‘They are dark, and are left to you to give a sense.’
Answer. Here then you confuse yourself; the spirit of God is the standing rule which leads them to speak forth scripture, and not others' words; and the prophets and apostles' words [scripture], did not lead to speak forth scripture, [rather it was the spirit that led the holy men of God to write scripture.]
Principle. He said, ‘They who had the anointing within them, had not an infallible judgment.’
Answer. John said, ‘They know all things;’ and told them, ‘try the spirits,’ whether they were of God. And said, they had the spirit of God, which spirit is infallible, and gives an infallible judgment; which spirit was to try the false prophets that were gone out into the world.
Principle. In some places you said, ‘the scriptures were dark, and hard to be understood.’
Answer. And here you say, ‘It is plain, and easily to be understood,’ page 8. Mark your confusion; for the scripture is not understood without the spirit.
Principle. He said, ‘There is an infallible judgment, which may be made from the scriptures without the spirit,’ page 9.
Answer. Who can judge infallibly without the spirit? Christ told the Pharisees (who had the scriptures) ‘they were of the devil,’ and judgment they had neglected, and he did not own their judgment to be infallible. And the apostle said, what they knew who were separate from the spirit, they knew naturally as brute beasts, Jude 1:10,19, though they spoke high words in hypocrisy. And there are you with your infallible judgment (as you said) without the spirit, (which is proved fallible.) There is no infallible judgment to be given that stands without the spirit; they that judge without the spirit, will judge amiss, and not infallibly, as the Jews judged Christ fallibly, and as the natural brute beasts did which Jude speaks of; there you are.
Principle. And he further said in the same page, ‘that the scripture is to be judge of the spirit, and a light sufficient to judge of doctrine and manners.’
Answer. The Jews who had the scriptures did not have an infallible judgment, but stood against Christ the light, and judged Christ to be a devil. That judgment was not infallible, and their doctrine and manners were not right, which stood against Christ the light.
Principle. He said, ‘The conclusion is, that the scriptures is the foundation of an infallible judgment concerning things contained in them, and not the spirit,’ page 10.
Answer. So he has thrown out God and Christ, and the spiritual man, who was before the scripture was, who was the cause of the giving them forth, and the inspiring them through the saints, which the scripture said, ‘shall judge the world, yes angels.’ And he may say upon this conclusion, that the world and the devil have the judge, for they will get scripture.
Principle. He said, ‘He who can bridle his tongue is not a perfect man.’
Answer. Which is contrary to the apostle James, who said he is, and so you are out of James' doctrine.
Principle. ‘But the saints have not Christ in the flesh,’ page 12.
Principle. He said, ‘Christ within sufficient for all things to teach them, and to make them perfect as he is, and as God is. Now,’ said he, ‘such a having of Christ as this is, we assume not, nor dare assume. And we declare against it as a Satanic delusion, and the Quakers are the poor creatures that confess this in them,’ page 13.
Answer. And you who are not made perfect by Christ the truth, you remain out of truth, in the delusion, and so you are out of the apostles' doctrine.
Principle. The pastor said, ‘that such a voice as comes directly from God we have not heard, and such a direct inspiration as this from God we have not received, nor do we wait for it,’ page 13.
Answer. So showing himself to be of those who God never sent. So you are as the Jews that could say, ‘Moses heard the voice of God,’ and the prophets heard the Lord's voice. But their own ears were stopped to the voice. For Christ said, ‘You have not heard the voice of God at any time.’ And you say you do not even look for it. And you who deny direct inspiration, have denied the power of the spirit, for that is directly received from the spirit, and the ministers of Christ witness it.
Principle. ‘All that pray by the spirit, and speak by the spirit, and do not show a miracle, are impostors,’ page 14.
Answer. Many prayed by the spirit, and spoke by the spirit, who did not show miracles at the tempter's command, though among believers there are miracles in the spirit, which are signs and wonders to the world, as Isaiah said. But these are the impostors that pray, and speak, but not by the spirit of God.
Principle. Because the Quakers say, that such as preach and speak, but not by the spirit of God, are the false prophets which the Lord never sent, this the priest said ‘is an evil design, wherein lie venom and poison.’
Answer. They were and are in the evil design, that spoke not, nor preached not from the spirit of God, and lie in the venom and poison.
Principle. He said, ‘though Christ was then in heaven, and spoke not,’ page 15.
Answer. Contrary to the apostle, who said he had spoken to him, and has spoken to us by his son, as Acts and Hebrews.
Principle. He said, ‘All that are brought to the faith of Christ, are not built upon a direct voice that comes from God to themselves, nor to any others who are their teachers.’ See page 15.
Answer. Who shows he never received faith from God, which from him is given, which faith is direct; through which faith they have access to God who is direct. And he goes about to overthrow all teachers made by the will of God, and by Christ, and the revelation of Jesus; for how can they be ministers, if they have not had the ministry revealed to them? So, he who denies revelation, does not know the son nor the Father; and denies himself to be any true minister, (but by man's will, which is not direct), who as true ministers, minister by the spirit, and are direct in the spirit, which you are not.
Principle. He said, ‘that there may be much fallacy and delusion in revelation.’ ‘That God did not intend direct teaching, nor to give out a direct voice in after ages, which should direct and guide men in the ways of salvation,’ page 16.
Answer. Which is contrary to the scripture, which said, ‘All the children of the Lord shall be taught of the Lord;’ and, ‘He who is of God, hears God's word;’ and that is direct, and lives and endures for ever. And there is no fallacy nor delusion in the revelation of God, but all fallacy and delusion are out of it.
Principle. And he said, ‘Timothy had not his knowledge directly, and yet he was in the faith.’ And he said again, ‘The faith which was once delivered directly from heaven to the saints, cuts off all from having any faith more delivered from heaven, and of all other direct voices from there.’
Answer. So he has shut out Christ who is the author of every man's faith, to whom every one is to look, who was before scripture was. That which was once delivered to the saints, and given to the saints, the saints now must know, they must know their giver and deliverer, and must know from where the faith comes in this age, as well as in the other age. For if they have only words that speak about the saint's faith, about how they had their faith delivered from God; if the saints do not now have their faith delivered to them from God, as those in ages past did, then they have only words, as the devil had, who stood against the author of the faith, Christ the light and the truth, and as the Jews had, but were out of the saint's faith, and stood against those who were in it. And Timothy had direct teaching, for he had the testimony of the Lord, 2 Tim 1:8, and you say he had not direct teaching.
Principle. He said, ‘There must not be waiting for a direct word, but that word which has been already to the prophets and apostles; none have the word spoken as it was to the prophets and apostles, they must have it indirectly.’ See page 17.
Answer. The word that was spoken to Isaiah, the apostle felt directly, which the pastor said he did not; for there was no scripture that came except by direct inspiration. And the word is direct from the Spirit, and all the ministers of Christ preach the direct word, and wait for it, and the outward written words with ink and paper are indirect.
Principle. He said, ‘But an overcoming of the body of sin, such as delivers from all sin in this world, is expressly against the scriptures.’ See page 18.
Answer. Contrary to Rom 6; contrary to the apostle to the Colossians, where he had put off the body of sin; and contrary to Christ, who saves and cleanses from all sin by his blood, and blots out all sin. And ‘if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin.’
Principle. He said, that Christ is in heaven in his humanity, therefore not to be seen, not to be heard, not to be handled by us or any others that live upon earth, and they cannot give their own assurance.’ See page 19.
Answer. So shows that they were never made ministers by him, who never saw him, nor heard him, so never handled the word of life from the Father nor the son, nor saw it, nor heard it, so are the pastors that spoil the flock. And he is the earthly Adam and humanity, but Christ the second Adam is the Lord from heaven.
Principle. He said, ‘that Timothy was commanded to preach, and yet had not heard, nor seen, nor handled anything of Christ.’ See page 20.
Answer. Contrary to the apostle, who told him to stir up the gift in him, and told Timothy he was in the faith, and he was to be strong in the grace of Christ. And whosoever has faith, knows Christ to be the author of it, and knows something from Christ; and so you have confused yourself.
Principle. He said, ‘that the saints do not see Christ, for the heavens contain him,’ page 20.
Answer. The apostle said, they sat ‘with Christ in heavenly places;’ so he is contrary to the apostle. And Christ was in them, and walked in them, and God dwelt in them, and ‘Christ is in you, except you are reprobates.’
Principle. He said, ‘The whole mind and will of Christ and God is left them in letters [scriptures],’ page 21.
Answer. The apostle said, it is past finding out; the unsearchable wisdom, and the secret things belong to God, and are revealed by the spirit, and no man knows them but by the spirit.
Principle. And he said, ‘The gospel is the letter.’
Principle. And he said, ‘The devil shows his spite and spleen in them who say they have the word, as it was in the beginning, against the scriptures.’ See page 22.
Answer. That is not so; for they that have the word that was in the beginning, own the scriptures, and are not against them, but are in that which fulfils them. [The word is in your heart and mouth so that you might obey it; this is the word of faith preached by Paul. Rom 10:8,17, Deu 30:10-14.]
Principle. He said, ‘that all the saints receive the spirit of Christ, yet never heard his voice.’
Answer. This is confusion, for the sheep of Christ know his voice. [Everyone of the truth hears my voice. John 18:37.]
Principle. He said, ‘They are uncovered,’ when commonly they have two caps on their heads: ‘and the people are covered when they have hats on their heads.’ See page 29.
Answer. This is according to your deceitful teaching and learning.
Principle. He said, ‘The scriptures is the voice of Christ to them.’
Answer. And Christ said to the Pharisees that had the scriptures, they never heard the voice of God at any time. John 5:37. For they were not put forth among the sheep. But the sheep heard the voice that gave forth the scripture, and came to the life, and Christ the end of them.
Principle. And he said, ‘There is a direct voice which speaks within, which we have never heard, nor do we know it within ourselves experimentally, and we believe and hope that we never shall know it.’ See page 30.
Answer. And so shows, that they never knew the spirit of the Father speaking within them, but follow their own dreams and spirits, and stop their ears against that of God in them; and that direct voice within, which is the spirit of inspiration, and the word of God in their hearts, which men should obey, they call the voice of the devil, and pray to be delivered from.
Principle. And he said, ‘To say Christ is within them, doing all directly and infallibly within them, and so say it is Christ and the spirit within them, and not they.’
Answer. Now this he calls a spirit of delusion. But the apostle said, ‘I live, yet not I, but Christ in me.’ And, ‘He works all in us, and for us, after his own good pleasure.’ And this was not a spirit of delusion in them. And this you are reprobated from, and found in your own works.
Principle. And he said, ‘what was within them, was not eternal and infallible,’ when the Quakers asked him, whether it was or not. He said, ‘No; what judged in them was not eternal and infallible;’ and said, ‘they assert no such thing as that concerning themselves.’ And he said, ‘Though all the saints have the spirit of Christ dwelling in them, which is eternal and infallible; yet that this spirit should do all that saints do, and should say all that saints say, and should judge for them both of persons and of things after an infallible manner; and that they should neither say, nor do, nor judge anything by any understanding of their own, but the spirit, all this we deny.’ These are his words, page 31.
Answer. Which is contrary to the apostle, who said, ‘As many as are the sons of God, are led by the spirit of God.’ And Christ acts all in them, and for them; and ‘the fruits of the spirit.’ and ‘the spiritual man judges all things.’ And that is it which leads the saints to divide and discern all things, both temporal and spiritual, the spiritual wisdom of God which gives them a spiritual understanding, which men must rule withal, but not with their own, that comes to nothing. And you who have not what is infallible to judge in you, know not the spirit of Christ, neither can you judge of persons or things that have not the infallible judgment, nor the spiritual man. Neither do you have the word of God in your hearts, nor Christ which is eternal and infallible, all which the Quakers have, to judge persons and things.
Principle. He said, ‘that children are of the seed as to the church privileges, and external ordinances of a spiritual nature.’
Answer. (Mark his confusion.) But Christ said, ‘You must be born again, or you cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven,’ and such are of the church.
Principle. He said, ‘If they can but destroy all forms, the power will fall with it; for the form preserves the power,’ page 37.
Answer. Contrary to the apostle; many ‘have the form, but deny the power.’ The power preserves the form, sees the end of forms, and destroys them, and brings to see before forms were, where forms are not. For the apostles who lived in the power, denied the Jews' forms, and Gentiles' both, as we do now deny the Popish forms, and yours which you have invented and set up.
Principle. ‘And a direct teaching (he said) of the spirit, and to wait for secret inspiration of God, is to subject men to Satanic delusions.’ See page 40.
Answer. Contrary to the apostle, who said, ‘Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost;’ and they were to wait for its revelation, as in Peter; and all are in the Satanic delusion that are not in the direct teachings from the spirit; and every one that has this spirit, and the leading of the spirit, has what is direct.
Principle. He said, ‘The prophets and apostles drew people to an outward word.’
Principle. He said, ‘Is not the gospel an external way.’
Answer. No; the gospel is a living way, which is revealed within, and is the ‘power of God to salvation.’
Principle. ‘Are not they seduced (said he) who are drawn off from the external means, by which the spirit is given and faith wrought, to wait for the receiving of the spirit without any word to convey it to them? which spirit, when they have it, is not the spirit of truth, but of delusion.’ See page 41.
Answer. The spirit and faith are not conveyed to any man without the word, and they are seduced who rest in the external from the eternal; and the spirit is not given by external means, neither is faith so wrought.
Principle. And he said, ‘They need not any man's teaching them, but as the spirit in the scriptures teaches, and they need not that any teachings of man should be added.’
Answer. And so by this he has thrown out himself from being a pastor, and all other such pastors and teachers. The spirit is not in the scriptures, but was in those who gave them forth. And the spirit which gave forth the scriptures, and which was in the saints, opens the scriptures again, and leads into all truth.
Principle. And he said, ‘There is an excess in that scripture which said, “You need no man to teach you, but as the anointing teaches you.”’
Answer. And here he speaks as if John did not mean as he spoke, and would make John, who spoke truth, as false as himself.
Principle. And the apostles' saying to the saints, ‘And you know all things,’ he calls ‘an excessive speech, for no one knows all things but God,’ page 42.
Principle. He said, ‘Outward teaching is the way and the means whereby the deep, and profound, and necessary truths of scripture come to be understood, but not direct,’ page 44.
Answer. So he has denied the spirit to open the scriptures, direct inspiration by the spirit, and it teaching; and set up an outward in the room of it. Here his spirit is tried again, gone out into the world. For salvation is direct, and the means that bring to it, and none know the scriptures by outward teaching, but directly by the Lord God.
Principle. And he said, ‘Ministerial gifts are not now to be found in the world, such as the ministers of the gospel had in the primitive time.’
Answer. Therefore no such ministerial work now as was then, nor any such officers as pastors, teachers, as were then! He has proven himself to be one of the false spirits which went forth from the apostles into the world; and yet he said, ‘Christ is with them to the end of the world.’ And yet said there is no hearing of his voice, nor seeing him, nor handling him; so he has confounded himself, and showed to all that he has quenched the spirit.
Principle. He said, ‘that the apostle was silent in that point, that men must be endued with extraordinary gifts.’
Answer. The apostle's epistles prove to the contrary, who said, ‘Without faith you cannot please God;’ which is a gift, and an extraordinary gift; and said, ‘He who has not the spirit of Christ is none of his,’ which is an extraordinary gift. So you are another ministry, and other pastors and teachers; and what is another gift than the apostle's, is not the gift of God.
Principle. He said, ‘How comes the apostle to raise up a living to some persons for preaching, when he said, that “they that preach the gospel, must live of the gospel.”’ See page 48.
Answer. It was contrary to the apostle, to preach to raise up a living for preaching; for he said, they were not to preach ‘for filthy lucre's sake.’ But ‘they that preach the gospel, live of the gospel;’ that is not as you raising livings, who make a trade of the form, denying the power, which is the gospel.
Principle. Here he cries out against gifted men's preaching, and said, ‘Paul prophesied against them,’ page 49, and names them to be ‘such as have itching ears.’
Answer. As he is gone out from the apostles, so he cries up his imagined gifts, and disowns those gifts which the apostles did not cry against, but said, every one must minister that had received a gift; and you are one of the itching ears gone out from the apostles.
Principle. He said, ‘that their synagogues (commonly called churches) were not ordained for any spiritual uses, as for serving God in them.’ See page 51.
Answer. Which is contrary to all the professed teachers in the nations, who say they are ordained for the use and service of God, and call them churches: but to this I believe he will call his words back again.
Principle. And Pharisee-like, he teaches to break Christ's command, ‘Be not of men called master,’ and calls it ‘a civil honor.’
Answer. And here he has proved himself not to be a guide of the way, and the governor of a man's life, for that title, master, belongs to Christ, and not to any man. These are his words, and the signification which he gives of that title there; (see page 52.) And yet he dare presumptuously take it, and plead for it, (which Christ denied in the Pharisees), and so impudently break Christ's command; and so has showed that he walks out of his doctrine, and is a transgressor, and no minister, but an antichrist.
Principle. He said, ‘The apostle never bred up any that they needed no man to teach them,’ page 53.
Answer. And so gives John the lie, who said, ‘You need no man to teach you, but as the same anointing teaches you.’ And the prophet, who said, ‘You need not say every man to his neighbor, know the Lord.’ See and denies the effectual work of the new covenant. But ‘all shall know him from the least to the greatest.’
Principle. He said, ‘Paul denies perfection to himself.’
Answer. Paul did not deny perfection to himself or others; but his work was to the perfecting of the saints, but your work is to keep men from perfection, and that has been the ministers' work since they apostatized from the apostles. And yet Paul judges him again, and said, ‘As many as are perfect are thus minded.’
Principle. He said, ‘There is a contradiction in the letter,’ speaking of the scripture, page 60.
Answer. Showing that he does not know to what condition it was spoken for there is no contradiction in it; except in those who are out of the spirit that gave it forth, there is the contradiction.
Principle. And he said, ‘There is a perfection that respects justification and not sanctification.’ See page 61.
Answer. Now, there is no perfection but where there is sanctification.
Principle. And he perverts the scripture of John, that said, ‘If we say we have no sin.’ And he said, ‘Whosoever said he has no sin, deceives himself.’ See page 62.
Answer. So he wrongs John's words, and puts he for we, and is charging sin upon the elect, and so himself is found a liar. For there is a time for men to see they have sinned, and a time to confess and forsake sin and a time to witness the blood of Christ cleansing from all sin; and ‘he who is born of God does not commit sin. And here the children of God are manifest from the children of the devil.’
And, Eaton, Have you been preaching and praying all this while, and never yet heard the voice of God? The night is upon you, you have no answer from God.
And as for the rest of Eaton's lies, we let them rest upon his own head, not being worth mentioning; the witness of God in his conscience shall answer in the day of his judgment.
John Bunyan, Richard Spenceley, John Burton, and John Childe, in their book that they call, ‘A vindication of a book called some Gospel Truth's Opened,’ are these following principles.
And as for Bunyan's lies and slanders, they will come upon himself; they are his own garments. And for the scriptures which he quotes, they are owned, but not to cover the wolf withal.
In his epistle to the reader he said, ‘The Quakers will own that salvation was obtained by Christ,’ (’this is truth,’ said he), and but a little before, he said, ‘They deny that salvation that was obtained by him.’ And thus he has shamed his father of confusion that taught him, the father of lies, who says and unsays; for salvation is owned by Christ and God, and no other.
Principle. Again, in the same epistle, he denies ‘that salvation is obtained by Christ within,’ and said, ‘The scriptures do not prove it,’ and calls it ‘fighting against the truth.’
Answer. The apostle said, ‘Work out your salvation with fear and trembling,’ and that is within. And ‘the engrafted word is able to save souls,’ and that is within. And the apostle said, ‘If Christ is not in you, you are reprobates.’ And that is not opposite to Christ without them, nor contrary to the scriptures. And none know salvation, but who know this ‘Christ in you,’ who is the salvation, and where he is within there is salvation. And so you are one of the reprobates, that can talk of Christ without, and denies him the salvation within.
Principle. He said, ‘The Quakers own Christ Jesus revealed to them in spirit,’ and calls it ‘delusion.’
Answer. And yet he said, others are carried away with error for not receiving Christ revealed in the spirit; and this is his patched up stuff, comprehended with the spirit, and with it is judged, who finds fault with those who have it, and is against those who have it not.
Principle. He tells people of the history of the word; and said, ‘Some have no other witness nor knowledge but the history of the word, and the relation of others.’
Answer. And yet he is against the revelation of the spirit in the Quakers. But he is one of the beast's officers to fight against the Lamb; but it is to no purpose, who thus builds up and throws down.
Again, Bunyan is railing against the priests, and runs up into the pulpit himself. And so the wolf has got the sheep's clothing, and they can speak of Christ without, who are reprobates, who have him not within.
Principle. He said, ‘The Lord Jesus Christ is afar off in his bodily presence.’
Principle. He said, ‘They were sealed by Christ's death, at his offering upon the cross.’
Answer. And yet Christ must come to save them at the last day! And the saints witnessed their salvation while they were upon earth, and said Christ was ‘in them, except they were reprobates.’ And the son of God was come, and gave them an understanding.
Principle. He said, ‘The Quakers witness the teaching within,’ but said, ‘The apostle witnesses the contrary.’ See page 4.
Answer. Why do you wrong the apostle, and put your lies abroad, when the apostle said, and Christ said, the spirit of the Father spoke in them. And the apostle said, the law and the covenant of God were in their hearts, and the anointing was within them, to teach them. But why do you fight against the apostle's teaching, the apostle's doctrine, and Christ's doctrine? Do you not see your weapon now fails you? You have cast yourself without, and have not the apostle and Christ corrected you here?
Principle. And to prove ‘that the blood of Christ was shed before the world was,’ he brings a scripture, which said, ‘The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world,’ ...
Answer. Here all may see, whether this is a fit man to teach, or whether he is not one of the novices, I leave it to all to judge, who have a just measure; for the scripture said, ‘since the world,’ and you say, ‘before the world was.’
Principle. He said, ‘that the son of Mary, God-man, is absent from his church.’
Answer. Contrary to Christ's words, ‘I in them, and they in me:’ and, ‘I will be with you to the end.’ So one of the blind prophets, contrary to John, who said, ‘We are in him that is true;’ and you say he is absent from his church. And the apostle said he was the ‘head of the church.’ But of your church we believe he is not the head, but will grind you to powder. And your words and your doctrine are corrected by Christ and the scriptures. And Christ said, ‘Where two or three meet together in my name, I will be among them,’ and the saints were ‘flesh of his flesh, and bone of his bone.’
Principle. He said, ‘To be justified by Christ, is not to be justified by the spirit within,’ and that ‘Christ within does not work out justification for the soul, but we must look out for salvation unto that man, that is now absent from his saints on earth;’ these are his words.
Answer. Corrected by the apostle, who said, ‘He works all in us, and for us;’ and yet you say that Christ is absent from his saints on earth, who are corrected again by the apostle, who said, ‘Christ is in you,’ and contrary to Christ, who is the savior of the soul. And men are justified through faith, and that is within, in the heart, which is held in a pure conscience. And Christ is in the saints, who is their justification; and the apostle preached Christ in them, and where he is, there is justification; and they who have his light and fail to receive him incur condemnation.
Principle. And he said, ‘The Quakers are deceived, because they say, Christ is within them, kept down by something within them.’
Answer. Corrected by the apostle, who said to the saints, ‘Christ in you the hope of glory;’ and he was pressed down ‘as a cart with sheaves.’ And Christ was in prison, and they visited him not; and hungry, and you fed him not; and you never knew Christ formed in you, nor the reigning of the seed, which is the heir of the promise of God. How was the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, but among such as you are? Reprobates may talk of justification, in whom Christ is not; and you who witness do not witness him within, he is not your justification.
Principle. And his principle is, ‘that the place where Christ shall come to judgment, is at the mount of Olives, on the east side of Jerusalem.’
Answer. You have put him far enough off from you, and have not yet judged yourself, (and Christ is come to judgment), and so are one of the false prophets, who told people look for him beyond the sea, ‘Lo here, lo there:’ but who are come to Christ, the light, the life, they need not go forth; they who abide here are sealed by the spirit, and put not off the good and evil day.
Principle. He said, ‘It is a delusion of the devil, and a dangerous doctrine, to tell people to follow the light within them.’
Answer. They are in the dangerous doctrine, and the delusions of the devil, who draw people from the light within. And thus he opposes the foundation of God, the ‘light which lights every man that comes into the world,’ and the doctrine of the apostle, who said, ‘the light that shines in their hearts’ must ‘give them the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus.’ So he is one of the devil's ministers, opposing the foundation of God, drawing people from that the apostles drew them to; for no one comes to the kingdom, but who comes to the light within them.
Principle. He said, ‘that every man does not have the spirit of Christ within him.’
Answer. But John said, ‘Every man that comes into the world is enlightened.’ And Christ said, ‘I will send you the comforter, the spirit of truth, which shall lead you into all truth; and he shall take of mine, and give it unto you; and he shall reprove the world of sin;’ the spirit shall, etc. Mark! ‘every man;’ here are saints, disciples, and the world. Get from under this if you can, for under reproof you have come, and what reproves the world is manifest to them; and the wicked quench the spirit, but the saints are led by it; and here are all men.
Principle. And again you say, ‘that it is a filthy error to say, that that light which lights every man that comes into the world, will lead man to the kingdom of righteousness and peace.’
Answer. Thus he is splitting himself against the rock, and striking against the foundation; for every man that comes into the world is enlightened, that through the light he might believe, and believing in it, he might not abide in darkness; and this he makes insufficient, when he who does not believe in the light is condemned. And thus the spiritual Sodomite and Egyptian is blind, raging about the door. And no man comes to the kingdom of righteousness and peace, but by the light within; and so he is in the filthy error himself, denying the light, and hating it.
Principle. You say, ‘Christ is the light of the world, and yet not in every one that comes into the world.’
Answer. Corrected by John, who said, ‘he does enlighten every man that comes into the world.’ And ‘the light shines in darkness,’ and the darkness cannot ‘comprehend’ it; and ‘he who hates the light’ is enlightened, and ‘will not come to it because it will reprove him.’ What does manifest to man an understanding of reproof, is within him, and hating it, that condemns him. And the saints believed in the light, and they abode not in darkness, which unbelievers do, and stumble, which the others do not.
Principle. And he said, ‘Christ was not in his disciples when he said, I am the light of the world.’
Answer. And so is corrected by Christ, [later saying] who said, ‘I in you, and you in me.’
Principle. He said, ‘They that will come to justification, must go to Christ's grave without, and to mount Calvary,’ page 9.
Answer. The scripture said, you need not go up to heaven, nor say, ‘who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us that we may hear it, and do it; but the word is near, in your heart.’ Deu 30:10-14. So corrected by the scriptures. And the angel said unto those who went to the grave without, ‘Why seek you the living among the dead, he is risen;’ and the saints ‘sit with him in the heavenly places,’ and need not go to mount Calvary for him.
Principle. He said, ‘The light wherewith Christ does enlighten every one that comes into the world, is but a creature, and is not a spirit,’ page 10.
Answer. John said, ‘All things were made by him, (made by the light), in him was life, and the life was the light of men:’ and this shines in darkness, and the darkness cannot comprehend it. The foundation of God, which was before any creature was made, is the power of God, Christ Jesus the light; and the prophets' and John's doctrine they stumble at, who say, the light by which all things were made and created is a creature, and so you are corrected by the scripture.
Principle. He calls the light ‘conscience,’ and ‘a poor dunghill creature that will convince of sin.’
Answer. Which light was before conscience was, or creature was, or created or made light was. He made the sun, the moon, etc. and the light which was before these were made; and he is life and spirit too. For what convinces of sin is above the creature; checks him, and reproves him, and lets him see when he goes astray from the Creator, and that is the light of Christ, with which men see their salvation, with what lets them see their sin.
Principle. He said, ‘The law does not lead men to Christ, but under the curse,’ page 17.
Answer. That is to those who transgress it. Solomon said, ‘the law was light.’ And David said, ‘the word was a light unto his feet, and a lamp unto his paths,’ and so led him, and will lead those who do it, from the curse, and redeems from under it, of which law Christ is the end.
Principle. He said, ‘It is not the faith and works together that justifies in the sight of God, but it is faith and good works that justifies in the sight of men only;’ and said, ‘Works will not justify in the sight of God.’ And he said, that ‘works are only to justify so far as to show their faith to be true before men.’
Answer. Abraham was not justified to men only by his obedience, but to God; and where there is faith there is justification, which faith works by love. And the saints' faith and works were not only to justify them in the sight of men, for the work of God is to do what he said, and his will; which they who do not are not justified, but to be beaten with stripes. And they who seek to be justified by their faith and works in the sight of men, are dead, faith and works both.
Principle. He said, ‘They are no christians that do not hold Christ absent from his church; but antichrists.’
Answer. Which is contrary to the scriptures, which say, they are ‘flesh of his flesh, and bone of his bone,’ and they are as near together as husband and wife. And thus he is ignorant of the great mystery, Christ and the church, which Christ is the head of.
Principle. He said, ‘that the light with which Christ (as he is God) has enlightened every man that comes into the world, is not the spirit of Christ,’ page 19.
Answer. And so makes what comes from God and Christ, not spirit, (as he is God), and thus the man is beating the air. He said, ‘Christ was God that lights every man.’ ‘And yet (said he) not with the spirit!’ How then can men be condemned for not believing it? So you have reproved yourself, and are blind, and fallen into the ditch.
Principle. And again you say, ‘Though Christ, as he is God, does give every man a light, (which is conscience), otherwise called nature!’
Answer. And so you have given those new names to the light of Christ, contrary to the apostles, as you may read, John 1:1-4,9. John does not tell us, that it is conscience or natural light, as you do; and the light which every man that comes into the world is enlightened withal, was before all things, and by it all things were made. So it was before any naturals were, and is what gives all men the wisdom of God to order the naturals; so by the scriptures you are reproved.
Principle. And he said, ‘Christ will not give his spirit to the world.’
Answer. But Christ said, he would send his spirit to reprove the world, and that is sent to them; and what does reprove them is manifest to them in the world, to their own understanding, and in them, which spirit leads the saints into all truth. There is no man reproved, but it is within him, manifest to his understanding. And if he quench the spirit that reproves him, he is not lead by it, and that is the condemnation of the world, ‘that light is come into the world, and men love darkness.’ And you do not call this spirit. Now this is the condemnation of them whose consciences are seared, and of them who have the created and natural lights, the sun, the moon, and stars; which light was before they were.
Principle. And you say, ‘The scripture plainly denies that conscience can justify, though it may condemn.’ See page 23.
Answer. Which is contrary to plain scripture, where the apostle said, Rom 2:15. ‘Their consciences either accusing or excusing.’ And again said he, ‘Herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offence towards God and towards men.’ And the light condemns, which you call conscience.
Principle. He said, ‘that the gospel is called the ministration of life, but not of condemnation.’ Same page.
Answer. But they are condemned who do not obey the gospel of Christ. And the scripture speaks of ‘a savor of death unto death, and a savor of life unto life' and the gospel is so, the power of God.
Principle. He denies ‘that Paul told the saints listen within.’ See page 25.
Answer. Whereas Paul said, ‘that the light shined in their hearts, to give the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.’ And it was the treasure ‘in the earthen vessel;’ and Christ was ‘within them.’ And ‘the engrafted word,’ was able to save their souls: and the ‘hidden man of the heart.’ And he had ‘revealed his son in them,’ and many other scriptures. And he said, he ‘served the law of God with his mind.’ And yet you say, ‘He did not tell anyone to listen within.’ And he said, ‘the word was in their hearts to obey it, and in their mouths:’ and can they obey that, and not listen ‘within,’ and do that, and not have their minds stayed upon the Lord?
Principle. He said, ‘The light does not shine in the consciences of them that he lost.’ See page 26.
Principle. And he denies ‘that every man has the light.’
Answer. Contrary to John, who said, ‘That is the true light which enlightens every man that comes into the world.’ John 1:9.
Principle. He said, ‘It is a counterfeiting of the new birth, for men to follow the light wherewith men coming into the world are enlightened.’ See
Answer. None come to the new birth, but they who come to the light which every man that comes into the world is lighted withal; which believing in, they are children of the light. Believing and receiving it, they receive power to become the sons of God.
Principle. He said, ‘To say that Christ is risen within, there is no scripture to prove it.’ See page 28.
Answer. Does not the apostle say, ‘Christ formed in you?’ And ‘Christ in you the hope of glory?’ which hope purifies as God is pure. And Christ being within, does he not arise there before all waves are still? And shall he not arise with healing under his wings? How ignorant of the letter are the priests grown, and much more of the mystery?
Principle. And whereas you say, you are ‘confident, that while some would persuade others that they have no sin, their consciences will tell them they lie.’ See page 41.
Answer. The apostle told the Romans that they were made free from sin; and the Romans did not tell the apostle, that their consciences told them he lied, as you say.
Principle. He said, ‘The body of Christ is out of the sight of all his saints.’ See See page 47.
Answer. The apostle said, ‘they sat with Christ in heavenly places;’ and the saints are ‘flesh of his flesh, and bone of his bone,’ and the church which he is head of, is his body. And every one that eats his flesh, knows his body given for the life of the world; and the body of Christ is not out of the sight of the saints that are in the church. Therefore you ministers and teachers, who say Christ's body is out of your sight, are not saints; neither are you of his church, which is his body; neither have you eaten his flesh, nor known what is given for the life of the world, but are out of the sight of the church which is his body.
Principle. And you say, ‘They shall have a greater judgment without them, than they shall have within them.’ See page 48.
Answer. The scripture said, ‘If you judge yourselves, you shall not be judged of the Lord.’
Principle. And that place in Jude he brings, to prove ‘that all men have not the spirit.’ See page 49. Where he said, ‘They walk after their own ungodly lusts; these be they who separate themselves, being sensual, and have not the spirit, who went in Balaam's way.’
Answer. Jude shows that they went forth from the spirit, and turned the grace of God into wantonness. And this does not make for you or to your purpose, but rather against you; and the same spirit that reproves the world leads the saints into all truth.
Principle. He said, ‘that God did not give the law that people should live in it. See page 49.
Answer. And the scripture said, that they who did the law had life, and were justified by it: for ‘Do this and live,’ said God to Moses; and therefore you would make God a liar, who cannot lie; who say, that God did not give forth his law that men should have life. Are not the curse and the death in the transgression of it? Christ is the end of the righteous law, who is the light that does ‘enlighten every man that comes into the world,’ which believing in, he comes to be a child of light: which light you blasphemously call conscience, or natural, which light is Christ, the foundation of God, which enlightens every man that comes into the world, that with the light they might see Christ who has enlightened them, the foundation of God, from whom light comes. And the apostle said, ‘the law is spiritual, and just, and good;’ and so you are carnal, and have not yet come to the law that is spiritual.
Principle. He said, ‘He who will but observe the motions of that light which every man has within him, (say they), so as to obey and close in with it, to follow it, shall undoubtedly save himself from the wrath to come: now this is clearly a great error,’ you say. See page 50.
Answer. Contrary to John's doctrine, and Christ's, who said, ‘The light that does enlighten every man that comes into the world, is the true light, that men through the light might believe.’ Therefore they are enlightened; and he who believes in the light shall not abide in darkness, nor in error, nor in condemnation, but shall have the light of life. Said Christ, ‘I am the light of the world;’ and he said moreover, ‘Believe in the light,’ before they be children; ‘Believe in the light, that you may be children of the light.’ So every man is enlightened with a light before they are children, with the true light. He who believes in the light is a child of the light; he who does not believe in the light, the light condemns him.
Principle. And whereas you say, ‘The law gives not life, nor justifies.’ See page 50.
Answer. It is false, you are mistaken in the scriptures, and rebuked by them. The law gives life to him who obeys it, and lives in it: and he that does it lives, and is justified; the doer of the law is justified, and not the hearer only; and the law is righteous, and just, and good. But Christ Jesus, the law and the spirit of life, which is the end of God's righteous law, is the justification to life; God's righteousness, who is the end of the other law. And the apostle Paul said, ‘The law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus, has made me free from the law of sin and death.’
Principle. And you would make it an error to say, ‘the saints are saviors of the world.’ See page 50.
Answer. The apostle said, when he wrote to the saints, he would save himself and others, and this was by the power of Christ. And Jude said ‘others saving with fear,’ but ‘hating the garments spotted with the flesh.’ Now you are a deceiver, and not a savior both of yourself and others, and ignorant of the power and the spirit.
Principle. He said, there is no such scripture as faith, ‘the light within the conscience.’ See page 52.
Answer. Contrary to the apostle, who said, the light shines in their hearts, and is not the conscience there in their hearts? 2 Cor 4. And Christ said, ‘They will not come to the light, lest their deeds should be by it manifested, and they by it be reproved, and this is not conscience, nor nature. And the apostle Paul said, ‘Our rejoicing is the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom, but in the grace of God, we have had our conduct in the world.’
Principle. ‘The new covenant which God promised to write in their hearts,’ he calls ‘the law by nature.’ See page 52.
Doctor Glisson's paper concerning James Parnell's death in prison, the lies that are in which are not worth mentioning, but will fall upon themselves; but here is one of their lying slanders taken off. They who strike at the rock, split themselves; and the blood of that innocent, lies upon their heads.
Principle. In the preface he said, ‘that the most knowing part of these Quakers have received their principles from Rome.’
Answer. It is false, for the instructions which they have received are from Christ, who was ‘glorified with the Father before the world began,’ and before Rome was, or revilers either, which makes the world to rage. The corner stone, the light, ‘which lightens every man that comes into the world,’ and was before it was; which makes the beast, and the false prophet, and the pope, and you to arm yourselves against the lamb and his light, which he does enlighten every man that comes into the world withal. And the priests' instructions have been from Rome, to set up their schools to make ministers, and temples east and west, with a cross at the end of them; and the tenth, which they imprison men to death for, and their preaching by the hour glass, and naming their colleges and mass houses by the saints' names; your instructions have been from Rome to do these things; but the Lamb shall have the victory. Glory to the Lord in the highest for ever.
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