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There is HOPE for ALL Men and Women! Text in light blue or bold light blue can be clicked on — to take you to the scriptural verse or other writings that confirms the text. The above scripture (1 Tim 4:9-10) identities two classes of men to be saved: 1) non-believers, and 2) believers, who will be saved to an even greater degree, (with a much greater reward). The scripture above confirms what I have heard the Father, in his presence, say and explain to me, There is Hope for All. Jesus died so all persons will be reconciled with God; but each person must first experience the painful removal of sin because reconciliation can only occur between pure objects; for what fellowship has righteousness with unrighteousness, and what communion has light with darkness? 2 Cor 6:14. From the Word of the Lord within:
All will be reconciled to God: the few who are crucified, purified, and perfected while on earth with great reward; and the many who are purified in Hell. "And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, to reconcile by him [Jesus], all things to himself [the Father]; by him [Jesus], I say, whether they are things on earth, or things in heaven." Col 1:20. (For more on how to be reconciled and enter the kingdom of heaven while still in this life on earth, see How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God by Waiting on the Lord.)
To live in heaven, you must be purified: either in this life with less pain and a greater reward, or purified in the next life, called Hell. Neither is a pleasant experience; to die to self is not pleasant. Sinners cannot live in heaven with God, or heaven would turn into Hell. We all have to be purified to live in God's presence and to live in perfect harmony and love with our brothers. A common belief is that all fleshly Christians still sinning will be instantly purified in the last minute of their lives,* to then live in heaven. This is wrong because God will never take away our free will; and if he purifies us without our having learned to loathe and hate our selfish habits and addictions, once instantly purified, we would drift back into the same patterns of selfish behaviors that cause us to embrace sin. So in this life or the next, we have to: 1) discover the bitterness of the passions and pleasures that our hearts desire, and 2) over time suffer the consequences of our passions and pleasures, while longing to have them removed by desperately seeking the grace of God to be changed. In Hell, our passions are unrestrained, similar to how we are without restraint to lusts and violence in our dreams. For our passions are the worst of tyrants. When we are placed so that we are entirely given up to them, they will torment the heart, and, like a torrent, sweep all before them, and yet never be satisfied. We must discover that true liberty is to be found only in him, whose truth shall set us free, and who shall lead us to understand only in virtuous actions (serving him) are we really free. In this way, when our heart's defects are removed, one at a time, we are certain not to return to sin in our free wills. Love never insists on its own way, instead it helps us see the error of the wrong way, so we can choose the right way; and then rewards us with the grace of change, finally resulting in purity.
If a sinner did not first have the sins slowly purged out of his heart, while learning to hate all evil, even if that sinner were translated into heaven, he would not be happy because he could not pursue all his old addictions. If you die still sinning, you would be absolutely miserable in heaven; all your pleasures and desires, having not been crucified while on earth, are not available in heaven, and you would be miserable without them. You would be yearning for the old wine, which you think is better than the new wine because you have not been prepared, crucified, purified, (the new wineskin), and freed from lusts, anger, sexual desires, resentment, envy, greed, lying, jealousy, foolishness, revelry, drunkenness, pleasures, pride, etc. Even your thoughts would be heard by everyone around you; you would be terrified and wanting to run to darkness where you hope your thoughts would not be heard by everyone. Jesus told us the same in the parable: No one, having drunk old wine, immediately desires the new wine, for he will say, 'The old wine is better.' Luke 5:39. A man must crucify his lusts and affections on the inward cross of self-denial before he can enjoy fellowship in the heavens. Purification on earth is much easier than purification in Hell; purification in Hell is a horrible, obsessive experience to be avoided if at all possible. A description of Hell from Him to me, to be relayed to you is: "a lot of pain with unexpected love; a lot of pain to be made fit for reconstruction." For ALL will be reconciled to God. All will be saved. Your life in heaven will be far more rewarding if you attain purification while on earth. But, even if you have to pass through Hell, your resulting life will be much better than life on earth. So there is HOPE FOR ALL! More on Hell later. But first lets look at how the Bible shows Hope for All:
And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the world. 1 John 4:14 I came not to judge the world [every man], but to save the world [all men] .
John 12:47 The Father purposed to reconcile by him [Jesus], all things to himself [the Father] ; by him [Jesus], I say, whether they are things on earth, or things in heaven. Col 1:20 Col 1:16-20 Notice: ALL men and women bowing, confessing, and declaring the Lord to be the only source of righteousness and strength. The last thing the Lord would want is someone to lie and falsely say something they did not understand or feel. He is not dishonest, nor does he want people to be dishonest with Him. Rather, everyone will know for sure and will gladly bow and gladly swear and gladly say, "In the Lord alone are righteousness and strength;" any other way would not be His, (they know righteousness and strength are only in God because they are in God: one with God, in union with Him and Jesus).* And later it is further said, "every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father; to confess Jesus is Lord, means they have made Him their true Lord ruling their thoughts, their words, and their deeds. From the Word of the Lord within: "Every tongue will witness Jesus Christ as Lord; he will rule every man."
I will put my law in their inward part, and write it in their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall no longer teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD, for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.” Jer 31: 33-34 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, my purpose shall stand, and
So that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; Therefore we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, Now, let's look at what George Fox said about All, (his words agree with scriptures above).
Finally, below are wonderful messages recently received from the Word of the Lord within:
The Light (Christ) is given to every man who comes into the world, John 1:9, so that through the Light, all men might believe, John 1:7; and by abiding in the Light and obeying the Light, man receives release from the bondage of sin to become a child of the light, a son of God: While you have light, believe in [depend on, trust and obey] the light, that you may become the children of light. John 12:36. For God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5. So man is given a small measure of light that he might believe what it shows him, what it reproves him, what it convicts him — while a man is alive on the earth. This seed, light, or spirit of God is your talent, which must be improved in this life; if you fail to grow it, in the next life it is taken away from you and given to another who has improved their talent, while you are cast as a wicked and unworthy servant into outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. If a man is totally obedient to the light, he will become a child of God, a child of the light. But if he hates the light because it reproves his selfish lifestyle and behavior, then he dies in his sins; and when a man dies still sinning, Christ the light steps out of him, leaving the man in total darkness, which is Hell. Then the measure of light that the man had is given to another who improved his talent while alive. From the Word of the Lord within: "When the light leaves, you will panic; all the ungodly will panic." Luke 12:47-48 What is the Torture or Suffering? Further, from the Word of the Lord within:
In Hell all criticisms of anyone or actions causing pain to anyone are replayed with you feeling the emotional and/or physical pain that you caused those to feel, (afterwards you are relieved, so the pain is not permanent). In this way you learn to hate the mistakes you made when on earth, resolving to never repeat those behaviors again; and as you learn to hate evil, you are drawn to goodness, which is being drawn to God. Thus, we learn from all our mistakes made while on earth. And how does one get out of Hell? One must pay the last penny, (a figure of speech describing a penalty), of their debt of sins committed on the earth to get out: I tell you, you shall not get out until you have paid the very last penny, Luke 12:59; and by long, long pleading to the Lord Jesus Christ, (the savior of all men), to purify them, after the last penny has been paid.... Everyone will be taught of God. It shall come to pass that whoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved, Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21, Rom 10:13; and every man will eventually call out to the Lord to save him. As the earthly saying is: there are no atheists in foxholes, so there will be no atheists in Hell. Every knee will bow and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, eventually. But, people who don't find holiness in this life "will be punished with everlasting destruction, separated from the face of the Lord and away from his glorious power." 2 Thes 1:9. Notice he does not say destruction of life or torture, just separated from the face of the Lord and the glory of his power — that is the eternal punishment. There is the Kingdom of Heaven, and the heaven after hell, but a heaven isolated from the presence and glory of the Lord. Stephen Crisp, an eminent early Quaker minister said: "The outward court of the temple was for representing the church of God in general, from the particular; the outward court was not measured, that the gentiles might come in; the unbaptized [did not have the baptism of death by fire, resulting in a circumcised heart] people, who were never regenerated, they might come so far as the outward court, but this did not entitle them to the privileges of the house of God, nor to any worship or sacrifice that was accepted upon God's altar." And do not fear those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Mat 10:28. The Him is God. Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come; and worship him who made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. Rev 14:7 Those not purified, those who die in their sins, all must pass through the lake of fire, commonly called Hell; (but not really Hell, because Hell and death are also cast into the lake of fire)*; but the spirit lives forever and eventually leaves Hell to a much better life than earth. To lose your soul is to lose that part of God within every man that could have been united with the fullness of Christ, to have become a Son of God.
The soul having been united with Christ, then lives in a higher dimension of love and Life than to live in spirit only. The Lord names this reward "the kingdom of God;" it is a reward that is beyond man's imagination, beyond the words of earth to describe. Man must give up his entire life to God; in exchange God gives man himself — the greatest gift imaginable, but without our understanding until God is fully known. The fulfillment of the soul's potential is beyond man's wildest imaginations; it offers something to every man that is beyond our ability to grasp. If we fail to become free of sin in this life, when we see what we could have become, we will be devastated. Everyone will be devastated at what they could have obtained while living on the earth; and those who thought they had loved God will be further devastated over what they failed to give to Him in their life on earth, which was to deny their selfish nature, seek his guidance, follow it; thus to then bring honor and glory to Him by producing the fruit of the Spirit. To miss the opportunity to bring honor and glory to your creator, who created you and of all the universe and heavens, is to miss your lifetime's opportunity. Those who die in their sins will shudder with deep sorrow when they look back at their petty, worthless, ridiculous pursuits while they were on the earth, when they could have followed God's promptings and realized the rewards that they then see and understand, but which will forever be unattainable for them. That sorrow will never leave those who fail to attain the kingdom in this life on earth. What you may not know is that you are now living on the earth in a cursed existence, the curse of Adam's fall, cut off from the life of God; everything is relative. Scripture tells us that until we are purified and renewed in the spiritual image of God, we are living in a state of damnation, now, in this life on earth. So life after Hell can be better than earth, but nothing like it could have been. Those living in the higher dimension will have the memory of their sins erased; while those in the lower dimension will never forget their sins on the earth and their evil passions and desires, which became their obsessions in Hell. Those in the lower dimension will also be aware of those who are enjoying the higher dimension of peace, joy, love, and proximity to God. Therefore, even after Hell, they will be continually aware that they live in a comparative state of punishment, which they will understand to be totally just and fair. They will suffer being deprived of the joys and privileges of the higher dimension. From the Word of the Lord within: "A man suffers with whatever he is deprived." Joy is one of the fruits of the Holy Spirit — a permanent joy, beyond the earth's transitory joy. There is an old saying: "you will never know how good it feels until you stop hitting yourself over the head with a hammer;" point being, our life in the flesh, separated from the life of God, is like being continuously hit over the head with a hammer — we are miserable, compared to the happiness we experience with holiness. As Paul has said: "Man's eye has not seen, or ear heard, or mind imagined, the things that God has prepared for those who love him." From the Word of the Lord within: "Truly, I say to you, all the truth is magnificent; you will marvel when you see it. Stephen Crisp spoke these words in his recorded sermon:
Richard Claridge, an outstanding early Quaker, profoundly wrote:
And perfection of holiness is specifically counseled by Paul: Therefore having these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. 2 Cor 7:1. Without holiness, we are, and will be in misery. Yes, there is a Hell. It is very uncomfortable, to say the least. It is not like Dante's inferno. It is not physical fire and brimstone; these are physical symbols of the spiritual, for example: "Our God is a consuming fire." Heb 12:29. There is also a burning within you to do something; the burning of lust, but in a burning intensity greater than you have ever known. It is raging obsession. It is hyper sin city — complete rage, complete lust, etc. The brimstone, sulphur, (when burned sulphur produces sulphur dioxide, used for purification and bleaching), symbolizes a spiritual purification agent. I was taken there because I prayed, sincerely doubting there was a Hell. This is what I felt and saw:
The Lord once told me "if one man's sin can curse the whole human race, then how much more just is it for one man's righteousness to pay for the sins of the whole world." Sounds logical doesn't it? HE IS LOGICAL. And the scriptural proof of his statement to me is: In the presence of the Father, I was told by Him: "every man and woman is precious;* every person will be brought back to Him in reconciliation; every word spoken, every action taken by everyone leads them to God." I could see and feel the infinite wisdom of God and how all ways led to God; and I could see and understand how this life was an illusion because it was nothing but a way to God for each and all; it was overwhelming; it was the greatest experience of my life to date. I could only see a cloud, but I could feel his mighty streams of power; it was like stepping into a strong river of wisdom, seeing clearly the infinite truth, logic, and reality of everything he told me. I also found the Father to be full of joy, happy, forgiving, and in control beyond what we can at best imagine. What we are learning in this life, all of us, will eventually lead each of us back to God — some obviously a longer, more difficult process than others. From the Word of the Lord within: "There are no failures in the next life, only people getting better."
You might be thinking, "how could every word spoken, and every action taken lead to God." Because we learn from the pain of our incorrect words and actions, our mistakes will eventually be the source of our learning about evil, and learning to hate it; either in this life or the next. And as we learn about evil, we recoil from it, and are naturally drawn to virtue, goodness — God. It is written "All men will be taught by God;" either on the earth by the Holy Spirit that is in your heart eager to lead you into all truth and to know all things, or in the next life, called Hell, which is much more painful, much longer, and with less reward at the end. We are created to be children of God, to be loved by him, and to love him. But He doesn't want to be in the company of evil. And since he creates in us free will to love or to lust, he first sends us to "evil school," the earth, where we are offered the chance to learn about evil with great reward if we do, because it results in us becoming one with him, a son and part of him as an heir. If we fail to conquer the evil in us while on earth, we learn about evil in Hell, the hard way and with far less reward when finished. A Repeat: in Hell all criticisms of anyone or actions causing pain to anyone are replayed with you feeling the emotional and/or physical pain that you caused those to feel, (afterwards you are relieved, so the pain is not permanent). In this way you learn to hate the mistakes you made when on earth, resolving to never repeat those behaviors again; and as you learn to hate evil, you are drawn to goodness, which is being drawn to God. Thus, we learn from all our mistakes made while on earth. Several years ago, my wife and I experienced that protection from death. We were walking home, crossing a street. Suddenly there was a loud roar as a car with a drunk driver at a nearby stop sign was peeling rubber at full throttle and turning left aimed at us. We saw the danger and ran to get out of its way. Ahead of my wife, at the last split second I sprang forward as far as I could, and the car suddenly stopped. My legs and hips were in contact with the car's left front fender, and my wife's left leg was in contact with the car's front bumper. The driver was so drunk, he could hardly talk. The Lord later told me, "I had to rush into the street to save you." For His life-saving intervention, we are eternally grateful and confident of His protection, providing we continue to seek Him as our highest priority; how we spend our free time shows our priority. From the Word of the Lord within: This is not making something good out of a bad situation of which he had no control; he is in control of everything around those whom he has called according to his purpose, and who love him! For what? From the Word of the Lord within, "the earth exists for the saints." The earth is everyone's opportunity to become one with God as a son, but for those not so motivated, they are only obstacles, tests, and polishing stones in the illusions of this life, which appears that everyone chooses everything independently, but as the Word of the Lord within said: "every man is put in place by God." The illusion is there is no God. The illusion is that God does not control anything. The illusion is that we are all independent, under no control. It is a necessary illusion; the nurturing soil to allow love to grow without coercion. See Why Evil is Allowed for More. And John said, ‘the devil who had deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Rev 20:10. This text is frequently quoted to prove that all those who have been deceived will be tormented night and day forever — but look, not everyone is tormented forever. Those deceived are cast in the lake of fire and have their part in the lake of fire, but they are not also tormented forever; those who have been deceived, after their time, are reconciled to God. But the devil was not deceived; he knew what he was doing when he deliberately rebelled against God's direction. The whole creation will be reconciled to God, except the devil. Similarly, the Hell Fire-Damnation preachers threaten the everlasting fire; which fire is everlasting. But look, the baptism of the Holy Spirit burns up the chaff with unquenchable fire [which cannot be put out]. Mat 3:11-12. Now few would argue that one is burned forever by the baptism of the Holy Spirit. The fire lasts forever, but a person is not left in the fire forever — except the original deceiver. The smoke from the burning of the whore (the false church) arises forever, but not from the deceived; the smoke is like a memory that is never forgotten. Everyone will be salted with fire,..Mark 9:49 Every man must pass through the fire, either by the unquenchable fire of the Holy Spirit's baptism, or have their part in (pass through) the unquenchable lake of fire, called Hell. Everyone will be taught by God, and everyone will be salted with fire. Death of our evil spirit by fire in everyone is necessary so all can live together in peace, love, kindness, and gentleness; all must be purged from the evil in their hearts. This occurs on earth for the few who are voluntarily crucified on the inward cross with great reward. For the great majority of mankind, this purging takes place involuntarily in the next life. If you die without having entered the kingdom while on earth, in the next life every judgment you made in criticizing someone or in causing someone harm is replayed with you feeling the emotional and/or physical pain that you caused someone to feel; your judgment of everyone is completely felt by you in every detail. Therefore you judged yourself. All men will learn to hate evil, are drawn to goodness, and to love goodness, which is God. All men are then subject to God's direction, Jesus being the true Lord of all men. Our life on earth, "evil school," is where either we voluntarily learn to hate evil in this life; or in the next life we experience all the hurts and harms we have caused by our evil actions and words while alive on earth, thus being repulsed by our past and becoming completely committed to never repeating those mistakes. We learn by our mistakes that we made on earth. The Book of Revelation describes two different groups of men in heaven: 1) the 144,000, who are the first fruits of God, redeemed from the earth, who follow [in obedience] the Lamb wherever he goes [whatever he commands], and 2) a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands. This great multitude had not been redeemed from the earth; they had not been obedient; they were not the first fruits — but they were there, along with the few, who were numbered, (144,000) and who had been obedient to Jesus in their life on the earth. Further, in New Jerusalem, the temple and those within were measured (measurable, countable, finite); the location and the spiritual Jews within, those whose hearts had been circumcised on the earth, to become Jews (obedient) inwardly. The outer court, was not measured. Rev 21:16, gives us a further measure. George Fox significantly amplifies the dimensions, referring to another translation:
Using the above circumference and ignoring height, New Jerusalem would cover 24 times the area of earth. If each of the 6.72 billion people on the earth today were standing in a 3 ft. x 3 ft. square, every person would fit within 1/2 the state of Connecticut.* So, New Jerusalem's outer court of the Gentiles, (of those whose hearts were not circumcised on earth), is capable of holding the innumerable others, not redeemed from the earth, not first fruits — but reconciled to God, having passed through the lake of fire to become fit company for heaven.
But don't make the mistake of thinking that since you're going to make it anyway, you might as well practice as much evil as possible. Your efforts to live according your understanding of what is required of you will be to your credit. Learning that giving is more satisfying than receiving, learning that kindness feels good, learning that telling the truth, (regardless of the feared consequences), is always the best, learning to control your anger, learning to treat others as you would have them treat you, learning to be happy with whatever you have, learning the value of marital fidelity, learning that forgiveness and mercy free the mind — learning and practicing these will minimize your purification time in Hell. Many stripes for some, fewer for others. (You may be asking yourself: why is this information is just being disclosed? Answer: the eternal Hell Fire damnation talk has become so loud and damaging to thinking souls, in its inherent unfairness, that He that felt it necessary to remind us of His value, love, and mercy for all men and women, proved by the many scriptures quoted herein, which we have forgotten and cast aside. The true sheep are being scattered by the Hell Fire damnation talk. But most important: this is the only generation that is about to undergo the massive thinning of the earth in a series of great troubles, including famine, wars, disasters of nature, etc. If we don't understand that all men will receive the mercy of God in the next life, and the sooner their evil is terminated, the less difficult it will be for them to work their way to salvation; if we don't understand that thoroughly, then even the elect could be overcome with doubts as to the goodness of God. The troubles will be catastrophic and fearful beyond our imagination, and we need to have confidence in the eventual love and mercy to be granted to all men. All is well that ends well, and we need to understand that God has a plan for it to end well for all men.) Now for that special case of children — how much purification is necessary for an infant? Any? No! From the Word of the Lord within: "What sin could an infant commit?" If we were born with sin, then infants that die would be sent to Hell without their having committed a single sin; that would signal God to be unjust, and he is just beyond measure. How much purification is necessary for a five year old? Certainly, is it not logical that purification of children is much simpler than someone who has lived 50 years of mistakes, habits, lusts, and affections? When talking about judgment, Jesus said in Matthew 7:22-23: "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? And in your name cast out devils? And in your name done many wonderful works? And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you who work iniquity." These people thought they were Christians, called him Lord, and they had performed wonderful works, thinking themselves to be in his name. However, they died still sinning; they had not been crucified; from the Word of the Lord within: "I only know those who have been crucified." Where is their fruit resulting from purity? Can you imagine how betrayed these people will feel. They will likely be angry. They will likely feel resentment and mistrust of Jesus. Their purification will probably take longer than the 'sinners' because of their anger and resentment; and the 'sinners' will finish purification and enter heaven first, and the 'saved' will finish purification and enter heaven last. So the last will be first, and the first will be last. And if they are teachers or preachers, not perfected and authorized by Christ, and therefore having been teaching in error, their time in Hell will be even longer, for the blood of those they have misled will be on their heads; and blackest darkness is reserved for them. The millions of blind guide preachers will not get out of Hell until everyone whom they have misled are released from Hell; he who leads into captivity will go into captivity, Rev 13:10. This scripture was already being fulfilled in Christ's time on the earth: the tax collectors and prostitutes were already entering the Kingdom ahead of the eminent Pharisees — those thought to be last were before those thought to be first. The person who has the least esteem of himself can hear the call to repentance the clearest. The last can hear the call to repentance; the first are deaf in their self-righteousness, (or their imputed righteousness from Christ, which supposedly excuses them from repentance and the cross of Christ). From George Fox's Journal:
Jesus said he would reject many, who thought they were Christians, but who still sinned; and they had not been crucified. If he rejects people who called themselves Christians, though he loves people of all faiths, he will also reject those of other faiths or no faith too. A total change of heart is necessary. You cannot depend on your righteousness and 'salvation' from reading scriptures about grace and faith. If and when you are righteous, Christ will tell you so! When you are assured of salvation, he will tell you "I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut." The receipt of salvation and the entering the Kingdom are simultaneous. Depend on nothing else, except his spoken words to you! Remember Jesus said, "I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance;" because the righteous cannot hear his call to repentance, yesterday and today! The righteous think they need to do nothing; they even say repentance and the cross is "works" and to do any work related to salvation would disqualify their false salvation based on 'grace' — so they can't hear his call to repentance, especially if they are busy in a form of religious practices: bible study, attending services, tithing, singing, reading from a prayer book, eating wine and bread, water baptisms, speaking in 'tongues.' He told me: "It is hard for those wrapped up in a form to see repentance to the truth." It was hard yesterday; it is hard today. See Jesus Wants to Teach You Himself for seeking His righteousness. We know that there is some form of life in Hell, otherwise pain would not be felt. If all are to be placed in right standing with God and life, after Hell is heaven. It is better than earth, but no where near the Life we can attain if we become purified and attain the Kingdom of Heaven while on earth, (perhaps the "third Heaven" of which Paul spoke in 2 Cor 12:2). The attainment here is relatively free from pressure, relatively free from compulsion, free from the intensity of the experience in Hell. Here we can choose thousands of times a day what we want to do. There, (in Hell), there is little choice — only an obsession to do the the desires of your heart in repetitive intensity so much that they become repulsive; and finally you choose to risk sacrifice of your life remaining rather than continue — thus shunning evil, hating evil, and being so sick of evil that you live happily ever after serving love — but in a diminished state than if you had chosen to shun, hate, and eschew evil while on earth. The diminished state and the higher state have been described to me as "living in different dimensions." In the old testament, only the high priest could enter the Holy of Holies in the temple; those who produce fruit in this life become kings and priests, in the presence of the Lord and in the glory of his power forever, serving Him. Revelation describes heaven as the temple of God and an outward court. The temple of God is for the spiritual Jew, those whose hearts were circumcised while on earth; they serve and worship God as priests and kings in the temple of God, which is the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb (Christ). Stephen Crisp, an eminent early Quaker minister said: "The outward court was for representing the church of God in general, from the particular; the outward court was not measured, that the Gentiles might come in; the unbaptized [did not have the baptism of death by fire, resulting in a circumcised heart] people, who were never regenerated, [on earth] they might come so far as the outward court, but this did not entitle them to the privileges of the house of God, nor to any worship or sacrifice that was accepted upon God's altar." But those who were not purified (regenerated) on earth do not enter the outer court until they have been purified in the lake of fire. Again, the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, especially of those who believe. 1 Tim 4:9-10
William Penn wrote of the forced repentance in the next life, addressing those who call themselves Christians but never bore the cross and still live in sin:
The heaven of the Vikings, Valhalla, was where they rode out every day to do battle to the death, and then returned to a drunken feast. Perhaps that is exactly what they got, until they got sick to death of it. Become aware of you desires; face them; know you are a slave to your passions, pleasures, habits, pride, and lusts. The fury of God is for the Light and Spirit of the Lord to step out of you; he being the one who has restrained you in your life more than you realize. When he steps out, you are left in the abyss of total darkness; this is to be cast into outer darkness, the dimension of the kingdom of hell. Without the light's restraint of evil, your heart is free to pursue all its fantasies with obsession; and eventually, your passions and fantasies, along with a continual repeat of your earthly life's mistakes, one by one, become a horror to you. Your horror turns into a dread and a hate of them, until finally the love of God rescues you from them, one by one. But you hate them so much, you would never consider anything remotely similar in the future; when you are then removed to the outer court of heaven. Thus everyone pays for every mistake they made on the earth, their time spent in this obsessive behavior being proportional to their sins when on the earth. As the Lord said: I will give every man according to his ways, and according to his deeds and works. Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way and be satiated with their own desires — and thus their time on earth has served them to become wise — the hard way! One person wrote me telling me how it was impossible for God to place people in a position to sin to their hearts' desire, stating that I was trying to make God evil. I say God can easily place you into a dream state where you are put into extreme conditions to play to your heart's inclinations, thinking and feeling just like it is reality — but it is not actually happening. Except, in this state, you can't wake up, and the state lasts until you have paid the last penny and become totally sick of the sin. A wise man once said: "to become wise, one must first acknowledge they are ignorant."
From the Word of the Lord within: "so they must pass through the earth wise," or else, you must learn about good and evil the hard way, in Hell.
And if we do become one of "the first fruits" we will be kings ( a servant like Christ) and priests forever in the close presence of God, worshiping and serving Him, beholding His glory, and being like Him, being one with Him, loving Him, and being loved by Him. Not everyone can be kings, or we would all be trying to out-serve each other. I haven't been told exactly what kings will be doing; in general, I know they will be forever growing in learning and love. My opinion is that the vast group of people who do not attain purity on this earth will be served by those who became kings and priests. If we are chosen, we can take no credit or pride; we are simply the beneficiaries of his unmerited favor — grace. Those chosen were not chosen, because one day, all on their own merit, they decided to seek God; no, God is the one who draws us to Him, and then he turns our salvation over to Christ to produce to completion. Many are called, few are chosen. Those chosen have responded to the call of God. Since there is no time with God, he knew ahead of time who would respond to his call by their choice. It is Christ's job to reconcile all things (which includes all of mankind) back to the Father. The relative ease and comfort of attainment in this life, and the rewards available to those who attain purity and reconciliation in this life, make the supreme effort to attain purity and the Kingdom in this life only common sense. Prize your time, while you still have it available. Pray for the Father to motivate you more by drawing you to Him while on earth. Offer Him your life-long best efforts in exchange for his drawing you to Him. Doubting his existence, I once said such a prayer and he answered with an indelible experience; an experience he has told me "anyone can have if they humbly ask." (That experience created a hunger that motivated me for over 25 years.) While waiting on the Lord, He said to my wife, "be the very best you can. . . . . for me!" (To His benefit as well as yours.) To Repeat what is said elsewhere in this site: And to those of you who attain perfection; to those who reach purity in this life; by you doing so, (producing fruit), you show yourself to be true followers of Christ, and he then brings honor and glory to our Father. Is there anything else worth aspiring to do? For if there is some way we can repay our Father for our breath, our heart beat, our life, our savior who has paved the way for us, then that is the only thing to want — every other thing must take back seat to the passion of bringing glory to the Son and the Father. As for me, knowing that I can possibly do this for Christ and the Father, as insignificant as I am, I gladly dedicate my life to do so, and I am eternally grateful for the opportunity. For with success, we become united with God, and we operate according to God's purpose, will, and pleasure; and our pleasure is to have clean, pure, holy, perfect purpose in all our words and actions — to be an instrument of righteousness in his hands, totally dedicated to a life of love. The purpose of this site is to show you that it is possible, help you grasp the hope for yourself, show you how to carry your cross, and show you how to allow Jesus to purify you by grace for your subsequent entry into unity with Christ and the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven while on earth. For more on how to get purified in this life, go to the Home Page and then to How to Benefit from the Changing Power of God by Waiting on the Lord. To those of you who want to argue that I have somehow misinterpreted the Bible scriptures quoted above, which seem very clear and easy to understand to me, I will not argue with you; I won't respond for "the servant of the Lord must not argue;" 2 Tim 2:24. This web site's purpose is to show how to become |
